Friday, 12 November 2010 09:01

Geforce GTX 560 comes next year has 384 shaders

Written by Fuad Abazovic
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GF114 with 8 clusters enabled
Geforce GTX 460 was Nvidia's life saver, and all reports are indicating that it has been selling well. Even AMD admitted that to its analists. This is the main reason why Nvidia won’t release a new GTX 560 until early next year. This is the card that is supposed to replace the GTX 460.

The new card is based on GF114 chip, which is an improved GF104 with better clocks and all eight clusters enabled. If you enable all eight clusters the number of shaders jumps from current 336 to 384. The math behind is very simple. “Each Streaming Multiprocessor(SM) in the GPU of GF104/106/108 architecture contains 48 SPs and 8 SFUs Special Function Unit” more here.

Also the complete GF104 core contains 64 texture address units and 512 texture filtering units.The number of SFUs jumps from 56 to 64. You can also expect a significant increase in clock speed as well as memory and the “new” card will run at higher than 675MHz core and 1350MHz shaders.

The launch of the card is a sales decision and it will come only if Radeon HD 6870 and 6850 see dramatic price cuts and put additional pressure on Nvidia. If all goes as planned you will see this card early next year. 

We expect some average 15 to 20 percent performance increase from GTX 560 compared to GTX 460.

Of course GF104 had all these clusters inside but Nvidia has simply dissabled one as it didn't need so much performance back at the summer time.
Last modified on Friday, 12 November 2010 09:58
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-19 #1 techno 2010-11-12 10:12
Does that mean there may be some way for us 460 owners to enable all 8 clusters?
 
 
+55 #2 Tr0y 2010-11-12 10:16
My most favorite cards at the moment GTX460 and HD6850. Best bang for buck. Best overclock potential.

Can't wait to check out the GTX560!
 
 
+17 #3 tekken 2010-11-12 11:04
Quote:
Of course GF104 had all these clusters inside but Nvidia has simply dissabled one as it didn't need so much performance back at the summer time.


No, those clusters are disabled due to manufacturabili ty/yield issues.

If you don't have that much of a technical background/clue, fine. But please do not make stuff up. No offense but comments like those quoted above, make some of the content of this site suspect.
 
 
-1 #4 AndromedaB 2010-11-12 11:08
i hate how they do this stupid waiting game but i guess they do have to clear the inventory/get back R&D abit
 
 
+7 #5 AndromedaB 2010-11-12 11:15
Quoting tekken:
Quote:
Of course GF104 had all these clusters inside but Nvidia has simply dissabled one as it didn't need so much performance back at the summer time.


No, those clusters are disabled due to manufacturabili ty/yield issues.

If you don't have that much of a technical background/clue, fine. But please do not make stuff up. No offense but comments like those quoted above, make some of the content of this site suspect.

i dont remember the 104 having yield issues... in any case they couldn't really increase the performance without stepping all over the 470/465 and screwing up half their lineup
 
 
+13 #6 Nerdmaster 2010-11-12 11:27
Quoting AndromedaB:
i dont remember the 104 having yield issues... in any case they couldn't really increase the performance without stepping all over the 470/465 and screwing up half their lineup


They disabled a cluster in order to decrease temps and power consumption and make the cards more efficient (because the disabled cluster is the worst one).
 
 
+1 #7 Nerdfighter 2010-11-12 12:18
Seems pretty interesting. Don't know how unlocking the 8th cluster will effect the power consumption and overclocking ability though.
 
 
+4 #8 loadwick 2010-11-12 12:25
Quoting Fuad:
This is the main reason why Nvidia won’t release a new GTX 560 until early next year. This is the card that is supposed to replace the GTX 460.



I don't understand why this is a reason? the 6850-6870 are neck and neck on performance with the GTX460, if nVidia release the 560 now then they will take the lead and win a lot more orders. Why are they waiting? Ok they will have inventories to clear but surely that wouldn't take us all the way into next year? Can they not release the 560 and just cut the price of the 460?
 
 
+8 #9 Nerdmaster 2010-11-12 14:23
Quoting loadwick:
Quoting Fuad:
This is the main reason why Nvidia won’t release a new GTX 560 until early next year. This is the card that is supposed to replace the GTX 460.


I don't understand why this is a reason? the 6850-6870 are neck and neck on performance with the GTX460, if nVidia release the 560 now then they will take the lead and win a lot more orders. Why are they waiting? Ok they will have inventories to clear but surely that wouldn't take us all the way into next year? Can they not release the 560 and just cut the price of the 460?


The reason is they can't. 460 is much more expensive to manufacture than 68xx cards.
 
 
+9 #10 nforce4max 2010-11-12 14:30
OH well just didn't expect to see my GTX 460 becoming obsolete this quickly but then again I am glad that I didn't bother with the gtx 465. Could have gone ati but damn those 5850 were over $300 usd in my area.
 

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