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Thursday, 02 September 2010 08:11

Llano is a quad-core, 32nm chip

Written by Fuad Abazovic


GTC 2010: No details on the graphics core
From what we have just learned at the Global Technology conference, a new conference hosted by Globalfoundries, AMD's Llano is a quad-core CPU with a native graphics core.

It is a 32nm chip that will be made in GloFo’s Dresden factory and the core behind the chip is a heavily reengineered K8. Don’t be worried as the K8 core has evolved a lot and it can support automatic overclocking and automatic clock voltage adjustments, but the basic single-core design itself is based on a tuned-up good old K8, or rather four of them.

This is the same core that you can see in some AMD notebook CPUs. While it is clear that the Llano core has evolved past the K10.5 design in some respects, there are also a few twists. We believe that the core should end up similar to AMD’s recently launched mobile Athlon II processors, meaning that it probably has no L3 cache. However, this is not necessarily a bad thing, as AMD’s cache-less Athlons manage to deliver good performance at great prices. Basically AMD’s has proven that cutting out L3 on certain CPUs is a good way of reducing die size and lowering production costs.

Llano should be ready in 2011 as AMD’s first quad-core with 32nm cores and unfortunately it has to go up against Sandy Bridge, a CPU that has a lot of potential in both x86 and graphics performance. However, there’s also a good chance that Llano will end up significantly cheaper than Sandy Bridge, so it could offer better value for money.

Just to stay on the safe side, this is not something that was officially talked at the conference, it was something that we found out asking around, and basically confirming what we mostly already knew. AMD did mention some Llano info and even showed the wafer, but we will try to learn more over the next couple of days so stay tuned.
Last modified on Thursday, 02 September 2010 09:35
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+8 #1 dan 2010-09-02 10:40
Fudo, can't you admit that your story about the core being based on a 2003 K8 core was just plain wrong?

Phenom II are K8 !
 
 
0 #2 The_Countess 2010-09-02 10:59
Quoting dan:
Phenom II are K8 !


phenom II's are k10.5's
 
 
+6 #3 hellfire 2010-09-02 11:08
yea thats really "news" that llano is a 32nm quad with a gpu based on actual cpu cores. We know it already for over a year i guess
 
 
+14 #4 nele 2010-09-02 11:13
Quoting The_Countess:
Quoting dan:
Phenom II are K8 !


phenom II's are k10.5's







You're both right... ;-)

Although Llano won't be as fast as Sandy, I think it's probably gonna be dirt cheap. If Athlon pricing is anything to go by (and it is), Llano will be a much better deal and that's what really matters.

It's not meant to be a performance part for enthusiasts and pros. Frankly I really can't think of any reason why the vast majority of consumers would need anything faster than say an Athlon 640 in the foreseeable future.

I'd go for the Llano in a heartbeat - it's more than fast enough for my daily routine, it will pack better graphics than Sandy and I'm willing to bet that it will end up a lot cheaper...
 
 
+9 #5 turingpest 2010-09-02 11:48
this'll also be an excellent solution for those with low profile htpc's that also want to do some console level gaming. like me. i currently have a phenom 550 unlocked to a 3 core, and a hd 5570 in a pretty small box - this chip would allow me to keep my whole system cooler and probably allow for a similar level of performance. sandy bridge is just too weak from a gaming point of view to consider.
 
 
-2 #6 aussiebear 2010-09-02 12:37
Quoting Fuad says...:
We believe that the core should end up similar to AMD’s recently launched mobile Athlon II processors, meaning that it probably has no L3 cache.


We know Llano is going to continue the same market segment as Athlon II series, because AMD has already laid it all out in their roadmaps a good year before!

Look here, since October...2009!
=> http://en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=7135
 
 
-1 #7 Bl0bb3r 2010-09-02 14:34
Quoting dan:
Phenom II are K8 !



Putting a plain are there doesn't cut it. It's not K8, it's an evolution of it.

I agree with Nele, while SB might be a king amongst oc'ers and enthusiasts, it's not for me or the majority of us. Llano will do fine.

Even Anand said it:
Llano is supposed to be based on a modified version of the current generation Phenom II architecture.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3885/sandy-bridge-graphics-update
 
 
-3 #8 INSPIREARUN 2010-09-04 20:27
Quoting dan:
Fudo, can't you admit that your story about the core being based on a 2003 K8 core was just plain wrong?

Phenom II are K8 !


Intel's upcoming Sandy Bridge's Benchmarks- Defeats Bulldozer , Expels Nehalem
http://lensfire.blogspot.com/2010/09/entry-level-sandy-bridge-will-end-up.html
 
 
-3 #9 INSPIREARUN 2010-09-04 20:27

Intel's upcoming Sandy Bridge's Benchmarks- Defeats Bulldozer , Expels Nehalem
http://lensfire.blogspot.com/2010/09/entry-level-sandy-bridge-will-end-up.html
 

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