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Friday, 22 October 2010 10:24

Today is HD 6800 day

Written by Slobodan Simic
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Roundup: Worthy Juniper successor

AMD has officially lifted the NDA veil on its HD 6800 cards and first reviews have started to appear. Bear in mind that AMD never meant to push HD 6870 and the 6850 as high end cards, and once again, renaming made quite a fuss as the market was expecting a direct successor to the Cypress, something that will happen once AMD launches the Cayman based HD 6900 series card. Until then, Barts is here and it certainly looks good.

As a direct successor of the Juniper, HD 5700 based cards, both the HD 6850 and the HD 6870 are quite an improvement. Despite the early rumours, Barts is simply a Cypress derivative and is using the same arch 5D design, cache hierarchy and ROPs as the Cypress, but also brings some quality, feature and tessellation improvements.

AMD's Barts takes the US $200 market quite confidently but bear in mind that Nvidia still had room for slight price adjustments that actually happened yesterday. Despite the Nvidia price adjustments, both the HD 6850 and the HD 6870 are dominating the market and are either cheaper or faster than their direct competition, the GTX 460 1GB and the GTX 470 cards.

Of course, Nvidia will push its factory overclocked cards, but only until partners start to show up with their own versions of the HD 6800 series. As we wrote before, non-reference HD 6850 are just around the corner and the non-reference HD 6870 will show up eventually.The bottom line is that AMD launched two quite impressive cards as we are talking here about successors of mid-range cards that are performing close to the previous generation high-end HD 5800 series cards.

At US $179/€149.99 the HD 6850 certainly is a great alternative to GTX 460 cards and it is a matter of choice whether you want CUDA/PhysX on Nvidia or impressive display output that AMD offers. On the other hand, the HD 6870 sells at US $239.99/€199.99 and is mostly on par with its GTX 470 competition and we are quite sure that Nvidia isn't happy with the GTX 470 price as the Barts is certainly cheaper to produce.

Here are some reviews and our will be up pretty soon.

- Anandtech.com
- TechPowerUp.com - Radeon HD 6870; Radeon HD 6850
- Neoseeker.com
- Legitreviews.com
- HotHardware.com
- PCEkspert.com

Last modified on Friday, 22 October 2010 11:30
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+24 #1 Jaberwocky 2010-10-22 10:55
Time for a bit of Nostagia.
I wonder how it would be looking now if 3DFX were still in buisness producing Voodoo Graphics cards and Matrox got into the Gaming card buisness as well.There would be a hell of a lot of competition and they'd all be giving graphics cards away with packets of Cornflakes. 8)
 
 
+17 #2 Super XP 2010-10-22 11:22
Finally the Radeon HD 6800 series is out. Let's party, give me some benchmarks please...
 
 
-40 #3 AMD_ciulpia 2010-10-22 11:30
HD 6870 vs GTX 470
HD 6850 vs GTX 460

http://paste2.org/p/1048948
Random pics taken.

Not worth to buy. :D
 
 
+8 #4 agent_47 2010-10-22 11:53
Quoting AMD_ciulpia:
HD 6870 vs GTX 470
HD 6850 vs GTX 460

http://paste2.org/p/1048948
Random pics taken.

Not worth to buy. :D

if u already have a 460 and considered looking for an upgrade, u were being rather naive. 460 was released a few months ago. it will last few more months. and as hard as it may sound, not everything revolves around u coz 6800 is not meant for u lot

but if u have a 3870/4850/5770/9800/260, then 5850 is worth fine.
 
 
+10 #5 Nerdmaster 2010-10-22 14:10
"and we are quite sure that Nvidia isn't happy with the GTX 470 price as the Barts is certainly cheaper to produce."

Barts is at least 2 times cheaper to produce as half die size results in less than half the cost. My guess is that it is only 2 times cheaper because 470 has clusters disabled and lower clocks.
 
 
+8 #6 thetruth 2010-10-22 14:12
Quoting agent_47:
if u already have a 460 and considered looking for an upgrade, u were being rather naive. 460 was released a few months ago. it will last few more months. and as hard as it may sound, not everything revolves around u coz 6800 is not meant for u lot

but if u have a 3870/4850/5770/9800/260, then 6850 is worth fine.


Exactly. Although the naming scheme is misleading, it still isn't as bad as Nvidia's since they ran out of numbers after the 9000 series. 100 series? Include some laptop stuff. 200 series is okay, 300 series = wtf? 400 series = poor. Plus the 460 is the only decent card, and they're not exactly going to be able to use the 400 naming scheme for improved cards on the 460 technology. /rant over
 
 
+9 #7 LuxZg 2010-10-22 14:26
Well, 6870 looks like a nice upgrade for my HD4890.. 20% higher performance, DX11, better IQ, newer UVD engine, less power consumption.. And a step cheaper than what I've shelled out for my HD4890 :) But I'll wait to see what HD69xx cards bring, just to have clear picture.. But these look just fine to me :) Specially once custom HD6870 cards start to come out
 
 
+5 #8 DJDestiny 2010-10-23 09:10
Quoting thetruth:
Exactly. Although the naming scheme is misleading, it still isn't as bad as Nvidia's since they ran out of numbers after the 9000 series. 100 series? Include some laptop stuff. 200 series is okay, 300 series = wtf? 400 series = poor. Plus the 460 is the only decent card, and they're not exactly going to be able to use the 400 naming scheme for improved cards on the 460 technology. /rant over


I agree with you ! the 400 series was rubbish . Comparing it with Barts is like comparing a EVO 8 to a STi ...
They could erase 1 digit off ;)
Next Gen Cards : AMD Radeon HD 157 ? Who knows ;)
 

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