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Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:10

Mobile phone industry too slow for new hardware

Written by Fuad Abazovic
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Takes them year(s) to migrate
HTC HD2 was launched roughly a year ago. This was one of the first phones to have 1GHz Cortex A8 based processor. This version is now legendary Qualcomm Snapdragon, that even today it delivers great performance. As of today, there is not a single mobile phone with a chip that is significantly faster that Snapdragon, and faster chips are available.

At least one company, Nvidia had dual core ready roughly at the same time. We are sure that Qualcomm, Texas instruments and Samsung also have their own dual cores. The chip we all talk about for quarter,s and we still have to see the design and until today, the last day of November 2010 is of course Tegra 2. Nevertheless we haven’t seen any dual-core ARM A9 chips on the market.

There is a big hope that a few companies should at least announce their dual-core cortex A9 based products at the upcoming Mobile Word Congress, scheduled for February.

LG should be among first Tegra 2 phone supporters, shipping them shortly after announcement. At the same time, we expect an ARM A9 based dual-core in iPhone 5 should come out with a in late June 2011. Let's not forget Samsung Nexus S and Motorola should also have a dual-core phone.

The fun part is that at the time first dual-core ARM A9 phones touch the market, fabs should be taping out the A15 28nm / 32nm versions of next generation dual and quad core, and if all goes well by this time next year there should be some 28nm chips available.

The trouble is we don’t seeing mobile phone manufacturers being that fast to migrate. Intel / AMD notebook manufacturers have a new design SKU at least once a year and they are ready to launch simultaneously with a new CPU introduction. Intel will launch Sandy Bridge, or the new Core i 2000 series on January 5th and you will see notebooks available based on the new chips instantly.

This won't really happen that soon to mobile phone industry as mobile phone hardware lags at least a year after a next gen CPU gets available.

Another thing is that Google’s Android or iPhone OS were probably not ready to tame two cores.


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-4 #1 hellfire 2010-11-30 13:45
I think they actually prefer hardware thats already proved itself...well and ofc the "OS" problem..i cant actually tell why would anyone need a ualcore in the smartphone..to convert video? :D
 
 
+12 #2 Wolfesteinabhi 2010-11-30 13:49
its not who has the MOST POWER HUNGRY CPU!!!...but the most efficient and "sufficient" are the ones that WIN this mobile game :P
 
 
-6 #3 hellfire 2010-11-30 13:55
Quoting Wolfesteinabhi:
its not who has the MOST POWER HUNGRY CPU!!!...but the most efficient and "sufficient" are the ones that WIN this mobile game :P


agreed with you, i was talking with "consumption is the same" flag up :D
still i dont know if thats true
 
 
+1 #4 DJDestiny 2010-11-30 14:35
Where's windows ?
Windows CE Kernel 5.0 - 7.0
is able to tame 4 cores .
 
 
+11 #5 Exodite 2010-11-30 14:51
Quoting Wolfesteinabhi:
its not who has the MOST POWER HUNGRY CPU!!!

This misinformation is getting tiresome.

The SoC is by far not the most power-hungry part of a mobile system. Indeed Cortex A9 dual-cores will require less power to do the same amount of work as a Cortex A8 single-core.

If you want better battery life, and don't we all, you should start pointing fingers at the displays, radio units and to a lesser extent storage as that's where the real power drain lies.
 
 
-6 #6 Wolfesteinabhi 2010-11-30 15:09
Quoting Exodite:
Quoting Wolfesteinabhi:
its not who has the MOST POWER HUNGRY CPU!!!

This misinformation is getting tiresome.

The SoC is by far not the most power-hungry part of a mobile system. Indeed Cortex A9 dual-cores will require less power to do the same amount of work as a Cortex A8 single-core.

If you want better battery life, and don't we all, you should start pointing fingers at the displays, radio units and to a lesser extent storage as that's where the real power drain lies.

yeah ..sure other parts especially the display HOGS all the battery power..but i was talking about just the CPU ....
 
 
-10 #7 Wolfesteinabhi 2010-11-30 15:09
.its like if tasks works perfectly on a celeron why should i go for pentium or corei7
(for the case cortex A9 might be eating lesser power then A8 ..but thats not always the case with newer CPUS...with more power come more battery hunger ;) )

performance per watt might be improved in new cpus but ...what if i just dont need 1Ghz processor and can do away with 200Mhz one which overall eats less power regardless of performance per watt
 
 
+2 #8 Jaberwocky 2010-11-30 15:56
Actualy the most power hungry element of a Mobile phone is a User with to much time on his hands.Surfing the net.WIFI on,Music on and watching video's all the time. :lol:
 
 
+6 #9 Exodite 2010-11-30 16:21
Quoting Wolfesteinabhi:
what if i just dont need 1Ghz processor and can do away with 200Mhz one which overall eats less power regardless of performance per watt

It seems my previous reply were gobbled up by the ether so I'll try again...

That's not how it works, a more powerful processor is always preferable unless idle power draw is significantly higher.

Since the workload is very rarely temporally uniform but rather coming in bursts depending upon usage it's preferable with a stronger processor as it can finish the workload faster and thus spend more time in an idle state than a weaker alternative would.

Check out articles on Anandtech or THG that demonstrates this if you like.
 
 
0 #10 DJDestiny 2010-11-30 17:48
Quoting Exodite:


Even the CPU industry is the same ,
The new Phenoms Have a Lower TDP then last gen Athlons ( the high end ones of course )
And can do things much faster ( well duh )
 

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