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Thursday, 23 December 2010 14:05

Llano ramp up in June 2011, shipping in Q3

Written by Nermin Hajdarbegovic

Six versions, dual to quad-core
AMD's upcoming Llano APU series has been the talk of the town for quite some time, but we lacked quite a few details and much of its spec was in the realm of speculation.

However, now we can start to piece the puzzle together and it appears that the first Llano engineering samples will appear in March 2011. Production should start in June and we can expect availability in early Q3, provided AMD manages to stick to its schedule.

Llano will appear in several distinct versions, starting with three dual-core SKUs with Winterpark DirectX 11 graphics. These parts will have a 65W TDP and at least one of them will appear at a later date, towards the end of Q3. A triple-core version with the Beavercreek DX11 capable GPU will appear launch in Q3, with a 100W TDP. At the top of the pyramid we're looking at two proper quad-cores with Beavercreek graphics and a 100W TDP, both slated for Q3.

Quick reminder, Llano is a Socket FM1 part based on a new 32nm K10.5-derived core codenamed Husky. It will rely on the Hudson D3 Fusion Controller Hub (FCH) to communicate with the outside world and it will support DDR3 up to 1600MHz. The desktop Lynx platform and Llano processors will eventually replace AMD's mainstream lineup based on Callisto, Propus and Rana processors.

The Hudson FCH is a rather interesting piece of technology in its own right and since it will be used with all future AMD APUs we will post the full spec in a separate article.

Last modified on Thursday, 23 December 2010 14:21
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+19 #1 fuadzilla 2010-12-23 17:41
go amd go go!! jia you!!! :lol:
+9 #2 Scootiep 2010-12-23 20:23
Beavercreek...heh heh, he said Beaver...

Ok, I'm sorry, but I just had to get that out. Some of these names from AMD and Intel are just ridiculous.
+6 #3 loadwick 2010-12-24 02:58
I am really confused with AMDs processors lately, any help would be great.

So what i think i know so far, Bulldozer is out around Q2 '11 and is an all new cpu, it also has a GPU in- built and fingers crossed its meant to be an ok chip.

Llano is based on a much older cpu arch design but coming out AFTER Bulldozer and also has an in-built GPU. Why bring something less advanced out after the new stuff?

I thought maybe it was just a mobile chip and there wasn't going to be any mobile Bulldozers but i am not convinced of that and then i have just read that Llano has a desktop chip, Lynx??? I don't get where the cross over happens? Where these chips are targeted at.
+7 #4 Bl0bb3r 2010-12-24 10:17
LOL loadwick... confused much?

Bulldozer will be a CPU, no GPU-on-die at first, this is what we'll get in Q2 2011 on socket AM3+ with a plain chipset setup as it was so far, ie. Scorpius.

Llano is AMD's first desktop APU... and it's not based on "a much older cpu arch design" as much as Fufy would want you to eat his dirt, it's a reworked Thuban plain an simple! It got delayed, which is no wonder, it's GF's first experience with such a chip as well and IDK how many GPU's were made on SOI+HKMG before, so several new things all in a new process are bound to make things delay a bit. This one will have a Fusion socket, one being FM1, and will use the Fusion Controller Hub instead of a chipset, in Q3 2011, ie. Lynx.
+1 #5 loadwick 2010-12-24 11:27
Thanks Bl0bb3r, i don't know why i was convinced Bulldozer has a GPU on die, this all makes a lot more sense now!
So is Llano aimed a lot more at the low end if the CPU is not cutting edge and the GPU isn't really going to beable to play games? Is there a big performance difference between intergrating the CPU & GPU together unlike Intel's current 'i series'? Is Sandy Bridge still to seperate chips again?
+2 #6 Bl0bb3r 2010-12-24 13:04
You believe a Thuban is low-end... or even a Deneb?

I would say it's for people needing most video services but with casual gaming for normal resolutions. Pretty much most of the market today including businesses.
+2 #7 Nubstick 2010-12-27 21:04
Quoting Bl0bb3r:
Llano is AMD's first desktop APU... and it's not based on "a much older cpu arch design"

Bobcat will hit the market before Llano and will be included in very low end desktops/nettops. And Llano is a K8 derivative just like all AMD's CPUs have been since then. The core arch is old, but it's been able to get the job done damn well all things considered.

Quoting loadwick:
So is Llano aimed a lot more at the low end if the CPU is not cutting edge and the GPU isn't really going to beable to play games? [snip] Is Sandy Bridge still to seperate chips again?

I'd say Llano is low-mid, the GPU is speculated at ~400sps. So think Radeon 56x0 performance if memory bandwidth isn't a problem. Sandy is just 1 die.
+2 #8 loadwick 2010-12-27 22:43
Thanks Nubstick.

I have been trying to get clued up on all AMD's and Intel's offerings. Various delays have made AMD's confusing, new CPUs coming out before a whole range of older one.

I just wish they would hurry and come out now! Bulldozer will hopefully give some competition on the performance front rather than just the current mid-range bang-per-buck front.

I will probably end up waiting for Intel's high-end LGA-2011, unless SB is a massive step up and overclocks like a dream as some are saying, 5GHz on air sounds nice (unlocked editions of course!).

Until graphics cards can be properly shut down, no matter what your set up, then on die GPUs for me are just a waste of silicon and producer of unwanted extra heat.
+1 #9 loadwick 2010-12-27 22:44
I can see on-die graphics have their place in the market: low end, HTPC, business PCs but they are never going to be able to play game, proper games at high resolutions and settings so for anyone that will play games a discrete card will always be needed.

But even if there is a standard for everyone to conform to where your discrete card turns off when not needed and the on-die GPU takes over, which is probably 90% of the time for most users, i don't see it being that much of an improvement. I have no idea what the idle power usage for on-die GPUs is but AMD have got theirs down to less than 20w and by the time i buy they will be on 28nm and probably at half that again.
+1 #10 loadwick 2010-12-27 22:45
I just think like Bulldozer, Intel should have left some of the range GPU free so that people have the choice of whether they need or want a hot GPU reducing their overclock and not helping them play games or reduce their power bill.


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