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Thursday, 30 December 2010 10:30

MSI teams up with Bigfoot Networks

Written by Slobodan Simic
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Brings Killer 2100 NIC to Big Bang MBs
MSI has officially announced its partnership with Bigfoot Networks, the same guys behind the Killer 2100 gaming network card and it looks like that in near future we might see the Killer network cards bundled, and even maybe intergrated, with Big Bang series motherboards.

During CES in Las Vegas next week, MSI and Bigfoot networks will be showing benefits of such network card and there might even be an official announcement from MSI regarding the bundle or integration of such a card with its motherboards. The Killer 2100 network card has already been paired up with a graphics card and it was about time someone decided to use a high-quality network card with its motherboards.

Of course, all will be clear next week at CES 2011.

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+1 #1 yasin 2010-12-30 12:25
msi board would be extremely good value then, seeing as the bigfoot killer 2100 costs around $80-90
 
 
+5 #2 Freakazo_ 2010-12-30 14:18
But it's only worth $20 ;)
 
 
0 #3 yourma2000 2010-12-30 18:07
it's not right to charge the prices they do for gaming NIC cards, I bought an ordinary Intel NIC for £20 last year and it's definitely helped reduce lag in games with loads of people such as the Battlefield games, major lag for me now is a distant memory, for anyone who's interested, my NIC is an Intel PRO/1000 GT Desktop Adapter.
 
 
+5 #4 hoohoo 2010-12-30 18:24
AND! WOOHOO! The Bigfoot will get those packets out to your DSL or cable modem really really really fast. But it will not get those packets through the intertubes any faster than any other NIC.

Also, where exactly is the game that depends critically on +/- a millisecond or two latency?

Bigfoot NIC is a canard: it does not address the bottleneck.
 
 
0 #5 Super XP 2010-12-30 21:10
I agree with your statement, though you do have to admit this NIC does indead increase performance and most if not all of us would rather use it than the regular on-board stuff. IMO
Quoting hoohoo:
AND! WOOHOO! The Bigfoot will get those packets out to your DSL or cable modem really really really fast. But it will not get those packets through the intertubes any faster than any other NIC.

Also, where exactly is the game that depends critically on +/- a millisecond or two latency?

Bigfoot NIC is a canard: it does not address the bottleneck.


This is good news. MSI is well known for great quality and quantity for value. MSI boards will now attract more gamers though MSI should also eat the cost of this Killer 2100.
 
 
-1 #6 yasin 2010-12-30 22:52
Quoting hoohoo:
AND! WOOHOO! The Bigfoot will get those packets out to your DSL or cable modem really really really fast. But it will not get those packets through the intertubes any faster than any other NIC.

Also, where exactly is the game that depends critically on +/- a millisecond or two latency?

Bigfoot NIC is a canard: it does not address the bottleneck.

the Bigfoot bypasses the windows network stack, so its not that the data gets sent quicker, its that the right data (gaming packets) is sent when its needed. windows doesn't fully prioritise this. also, its customisable, you can choose what packets to prioritise.most other nics cant do this...
 
 
-1 #7 yasin 2010-12-30 22:53
...in terms of latency, the bigfoot will reduce the latency, but the main idea is that its stable-it flattens out the lag spikes, meaning the latency is stable, which means that there is far less lag on your side.
the bottleneck is really the windows process, and although the bigfoot is infamous for driver issues, its good because it tries to bypass the windows stack, and lets us choose to prioritise the right packets of data over the unnecessary ones (it stops things like updaters interfering).
 
 
-1 #8 hoohoo 2010-12-31 03:46
@yasin - I've measured the packet rates for a number of game servers over the years: Quake II, Quake III, L4D. None of these games even running as a server (ie the busiest system in any given game) came close to saturating a 10 Mb plain jane Ethernet pipe. A game client would generate less traffic.

The bottleneck is and always will be your internet uplink, or the internet itself if you have very high speed access.

FWIW if you want to do QOS to 'smooth out the lag spikes' I suggest getting an access point / router that can run DDWRT or OpenWRT. You will have much more control, for less money that way.

But latency variations on the path across the internet are going to be larger and less predictable than those within your Windows network stack anyway.
 
 
0 #9 hoohoo 2010-12-31 03:51
@Super XP

Well, Super, no, actually I do not agree that it will increase performance. That's kinda what I was saying in my OP.

Bigfoot cards have been tested before on some of the hardware site, none found a statistically significant benefit to using the Bigfoot over an Intel or Marvell or what-have-you NIC.

Any ethernet NIC in a PC that is connected to the internet via DSL or cable is not the bottleneck. The DSL or cable uplink is the bandwidth bottleneck, and the internet at large will generate greater variances of latency than your Windows box & home network. It's that simple.
 
 
0 #10 hoohoo 2010-12-31 04:05
Quoting yourma2000:
it's not right to charge the prices they do for gaming NIC cards, ... my NIC is an Intel PRO/1000 GT Desktop Adapter.


Of course it is not right to charge so much! But you know the old saying:

"There's a sucker born ever minute"

I have a PRO/1000 card too, it's in an old box running NFS with a 4 disk RAID 5 array in it - but the built in NIC was only Fast Ethernet and could not keep up with the disks sometimes.

I think Intel has pwned add-in Ethernet cards since about 1997 or so, and Intel sells at very very competitive prices (my inner AMD64 fanboie is having fits just now lol).
 

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