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Wednesday, 23 February 2011 13:50

Panther Point chipset supports HDMI 1.4

Written by Fuad Abazovic

Ivy Bridge chipset gets Intel 7 series chipset name
Intel definitely wants to roll out a new chipset after the Sandy Bridge P67 and H67 debacle but it will take them until end of the year before it happens.

Codename for Ivy Bridge 22nm CPU chipset is Panther Point. The new chipset is going to end up with Intel 7 series brand, most likely P77 and G77, but it is too early to tell.  It has 1Gb LAN support, PCIe 2nd generation support as well as SATA 3.0. Furthermore, it supports USB 3.0 and 2.0, which is the first time ever for an Intel chipset.

The surprising thing is HDMI 1.4 as well as DisplayPort 1.1. Ivy Bridge will be the third generation of Intel's CPU that features graphics support, and therefore Panther Point's DisplayPort and HDMI support will be put to good use.

The official launch date is currently scheduled for 1H 2012.

Last modified on Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:06
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+4 #1 odin 2011-02-23 18:13
PCIe 2nd generation

Silly to make another new chipset without 3.0.
+3 #2 loadwick 2011-02-23 18:36
"official release date 1H 2012"

What happened to 4Q 2011?

And yes it seems very odd that a newer chipset than the LGA2011 will have older stuff on it like PCi-Ex 2.0.

But then it also seems very odd to me that the mid-range with be on a much newer arch. and at 22nm when the high end is stuck at 32nm and a year old Sandy Bridge arch.
+2 #3 Bl0bb3r 2011-02-23 19:33
Quoting loadwick:
But then it also seems very odd to me[...]

That's how products are released for maximum profitability... first you release a weak product, speaking in general terms, at a price point, only to later have it dethroned by a newer product, slightly better but at the same price-point or even higher.

The old method most of us are used to is to get the X's and EX's first for ridiculous prices and then have slower parts out, only that this has the result to make the price points stagnate and OEM's don't like that. They want to be able to release "new" products often with better specs than the older ones, so intel agreed. More cash for them.
-2 #4 loadwick 2011-02-23 20:12
Hi Bl0bb3r,

I don't see how that makes more money though.

If the really high-end, high margin, chips were out now then, naturally, Intel would have sold quite a lot of them and so making a lot from them. Obviously this would impact on the sales of the mid-range but in a good way.

Just speaking personally, I am waiting for SB-E (or BD) and 28nm GPUs to build a new system but its going to be a hard choice between an expensive SB or a cheaper but more advanced (22nm) IB.

I just think Intel have dropped the ball on this one, there should never be cheaper products that are more advanced, 22nm might be a great overclocker and should have better core tweaks etc, plus QuickSync. All this from a 'lower' product!
0 #5 Bl0bb3r 2011-02-23 21:27
So it would seem, the problem is that getting chips from a higher price down to a more affordable level is what the customer expects.

I was thinking more like progressive advancements of products than a still-standing market lineup, where for the whole year all we get are the same chips or slower.

Or think like this, what would sell better?... I doubt it would be those expensive CPU's they normally show first, those are treats for some with deep pockets and usually rank in low profits.

I think Intel's intent is to keep it's market share in the wake of Bulldozer and AMD's APUs. If intel puts high-end SB to please one crowd and better ivys to please the mases then they could put AMD down.
0 #6 loadwick 2011-02-23 22:03
Intel does do what you are saying though. take the entry chip into the high-end, 920, that was ~$300 at the start then a few months later they brought out a new better chip to replace it, 930, then few months after that came the 950 and now we have the 960 at ~300.

I understand that companies make their money on the low and mid-range but i just feel the high-end should be a demonstration of what the company can do and so what the lower end chips can expect in the future. This means being the first with a new architecture, first with a die shrink, highest possible overclocks, most number of cores...
+1 #7 loadwick 2011-02-23 22:08
...With Ivy Bridge i am sure i heard 8 cores being talked about but more importantly as most apps still can't make use of more than about 2 cores is that i would like to think 22nm is going to be faster than 32nm.

Also, what plays on my mind is that what is Sandy Bridge-E really going to be able to offer over the standard SB? Its got quad-channel which i don't think is a bottleneck in all but synthetic tests, its got more cache and i would guess 2 more cores. I just can't see it overclocking much more than standard SB so a 5GHz quad-core SB 'vs' ~5GHz hex-core SB-E is not going to be amazingly faster, but it is going to be amazingly more expensive!....
0 #8 loadwick 2011-02-23 22:12
....Where as if Intel had brought out the high end first then the massive price premium would be a little bit more justified as it would be up against Nehalem mid-range and so would be quite alot faster.

And then Intel would bring out cheaper versions of SB having taken all the money they could from every customer that could possibly afford them.

But the current way customers might just go for cheaper Ivy Bridge as there probably won't be much in the performance gap at all, plus less heat, less power and QuickSync 2.0
+2 #9 hoohoo 2011-02-23 23:23
I can only say that my Core2 CPUs run my apps well enough for now.

If or when 22nM hits retail in volume... well I'm going to wait for that, the case for upgrade to present product is not strong enough.

I think the the real advantage from the new Intel & AMD architectures is power consumption, and improved performance vs power consumption. $500/box to upgrade now is steep. 22nM should be better.

My current 1st gen Phenom-based home NFS/SAMBA/LAMP server sucks about 100 Watts. It would not break my heart to replace the mobo/CPU with something that sucks less power but offers similar performance. Right now AMD E350 looks the best, assuming the products ever actually hit the shelves!
+1 #10 Bl0bb3r 2011-02-24 19:34

intel don't really care if you can overclock them or not, usually warranty is voided when oc'ing, but no one could tell that it was if it blows. Also, you forgot that intel wanted to push unlocking codes for a price so that the CPU's could be "upgraded" (more like OC'ed)?

8 cores ivys?... maybe later on, for the mainstream at most 4 cores.

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