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Thursday, 24 March 2011 11:42

Intel denies killing Itanium

Written by Nick Farell


Oracle just made it up
Intel has denied Oracle's claims that it has plans to kill off the Itanium chip.

Yesterday Oracle said it was not supporting the chip any more because Chipzilla had lost interest in it. However we got a statement from Intel this morning saying that its work on Intel Itanium processors and platforms continues unabated with multiple generations of chips currently in development and on schedule.

Paul Otellini, president and CEO of Intel was quoted as saying that Intel remain firmly committed to delivering a competitive, multi-generational roadmap for HP-UX and other operating system customers that run the Itanium architecture.

Poulson is Intel’s next generation 32nm 8 core based Itanium chip, and is on track to more than double the performance of the existing Tukwila architecture. Kittson is an officially committed roadmap product for Itanium beyond Poulson and is also in active development. Intel Itanium processor industry momentum will be highlighted in a keynote at the upcoming Beijing Intel Developer’s Forum, the statement said.
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+4 #1 genetix 2011-03-24 14:08
HP-Intel hand in hand.

software vs. hardware. Still saying in this scenario hardware will lose 10:1.
 
 
+7 #2 Super XP 2011-03-24 14:44
Does not matter who killed off Itanium, it sucks anyway. The world is better of without Itanium and it's Major problems...
 
 
+1 #3 Bl0bb3r 2011-03-24 15:46
Itanium had potential, it was very good... designed. Unfortunately it wasn't designed by some universities and offered in an alliance package, but done by intel on hard terms, and that Super XP, is the main problem.

Anyway, I suppose you right then, we're better off without it.
 
 
+1 #4 Naterm 2011-03-25 02:17
The Itanium ISA (used to be called IA-64, don't know what they call it now) was very well thought out. IA-64 is leaps and bounds better for performance computing than x86-64.

The problem is that everything is written for x86/x86-64. This is one instance of how we'd have come out better if intel had a full on monopoly. We wouldn't be stuck with x86 anymore.

Not that x86 is particularly bad, it's just very convoluted and there are better ways of doing things. Poulson looks like a pretty mean chip. I could have bought the idea of intel killing Itanium off more easily before Tukwila, but with Poulson it actually looks like they're trying.
 
 
+3 #5 markhahn 2011-03-25 03:58
sorry, ia64 is NOT significantly better than x86_64 - certainly not for HPC. I can't think of any market segment that will mourn the official passing of ia64, whenever Intel/HP get up the guts to do it. in fact, this kind of news should raise the question: was ia64 ever a missed opportunity? what problem was this VLIW-like architecture meant to solve? it seemed to be inspired by the early RISC emphasis on compilers making it easy for the hardware. many people claimed early that ia64 just needed better compilers - but that hasn't happened at all. today ia64 does OK on big-vector code, but certainly doesn't stand out any other way. outside of HPL, vector code is not all that common, not enough to support a separate ISA...
 
 
-3 #6 Squall_Leonhart 2011-03-26 10:31
Quoting markhahn:


sorry, but you're an idiot. x86-64 is a mess of instructions that the Itanium platforms sought to address by dropping the and building a pure 64bit platform free from any ancient crap.
 
 
+2 #7 The_Countess 2011-03-26 12:29
Quoting Squall_Leonhart :
sorry, but you're an idiot. x86-64 is a mess of instructions that the Itanium platforms sought to address by dropping the and building a pure 64bit platform free from any ancient crap.


which is precisely why it failed.
it didn't run ~95-99% of existing software.

and AMD64 as it officially should be called (except when you ask intel) does clean up the x86 significantly. 16bit is no longer supported in 64bit mode for example. in a few more generations it will probably be removed from the CPU's altogether.
 

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