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Thursday, 14 April 2011 19:03

AMD native USB 3.0 support gets confirmed

Written by Slobodan Simic
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Intel to wait for 2012
Although we wrote about AMD's native USB 3.0 support with its Fusion Controller Hub on Sabine and Lynx platforms back in December, it has now been pretty much confirmed that AMD will be the first one that will have this support on AMD A75 and A70M chipsets. On the other side, Intel will hold back with native support until 2012 or, simply, the introduction of the new Ivy Bridge platform.

The confirmation for AMD's native USB 3.0 support came from USB-IF official product database. The noted database places A75 FCH and the A70M FCH with USB 3.0 ports. These two are probably the mobile Hudson-M3 and the desktop Hudson-D3 variants that we wrote about back in December. The implementation of the native USB 3.0 by AMD will certainly make things easier for the OEMs on both desktop and mobile markets.

On the other hand, Intel places its faith in Thunderbolt, which can, in case you somehow missed it, currently be found in Apple's MacBook Pro. Intel didn't forget USB 3.0 and will implement it on its next Ivy Bridge chipset that is scheduled for 2012. Motherboard manufacturers will have to stick to third-party solutions which in general terms only complicates things and makes a product a bit more expensive.

AMD has put a lot of effort in its Fusion line and it looks like it is going to pay off.

Last modified on Friday, 15 April 2011 08:41
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+4 #1 loadwick 2011-04-15 09:51
Everything i have read about Ivy Bridge has pointed to a lack of USB 3.0, the slides that got 'leaked' a few weeks back said fully SATA-6Gb, PCi-Ex 3.0 but nothing about USB 3.0
 
 
+1 #2 Drac 2011-04-15 11:12
Quoting loadwick:
Everything i have read about Ivy Bridge has pointed to a lack of USB 3.0, the slides that got 'leaked' a few weeks back said fully SATA-6Gb, PCi-Ex 3.0 but nothing about USB 3.0


Then you dont know how to use google my friend LOL
IDF Conference in Pekin - Ivy will support USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt,loo k for facts around before posting something
How you can imagine 2012 without USB 3? :D :P
 
 
+3 #3 yourma2000 2011-04-15 12:21
I'm not really wow'd USB 3.0 anymore, I'm more interested in intels light peak technology, being twice as fast and running on optical cable I think we should skip SATA 3.0 and USB 3.0 to make the light peak interface the standard for internal and external devices
 
 
+4 #4 loadwick 2011-04-15 12:45
Don't get used to this Drac but my apologies, i was thinking of the LGA-2011 slides.

TBH i think that is more shocking, Intel's super high-end, super expensive set doesn't have native USB 3.0. Its not like USB 3 is cutting edge and may or may not be ready at launch date. We are talking about something that has been readily available for over 18 months.
 
 
+2 #5 Bl0bb3r 2011-04-15 15:12
Quoting yourma2000:
we should skip SATA 3.0 and USB 3.0 to make the light peak interface the standard for internal and external devices



Back in 2007 USB 3.0 was said to be optical... well, something happened and they dropped the optical part or will add it in the next revision.

Based on this http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=185462, it is suggested costs aren't that high for Intel's LP, although they're not open as to how much they really are, but I would expect the next version of USB to be optical as well, probably even less costly and less greedy on the royalties.

Add to that the need for only one chip (to rule them all) for optical and copper connectors.
 
 
+3 #6 JAB Creations 2011-04-15 16:44
Intel created LightPeak now AKA Thunderbolt. They've intentionally delayed USB 3.0 to get their technology in place.

THINK people, if that technology gains enough ground AMD will have to pay Intel to have it implemented on our motherboards. Besides, USB works just fine and it's current-gen bandwidth exceeds what devices can deliver.
 
 
-1 #7 Cartman 2011-04-17 00:45
Well all this new stuff is pointless, your gonna come to ur friend and he wont have USB 3.0... do we need PCI-EX 3.0?
And like ddr 3 did wonders in gaming yeaaa ... dream on
 
 
+2 #8 loadwick 2011-04-17 10:13
I totally agree Cartman, people should stop expecting technology to move on. Everyone should have been happy with their 386's, their 4MB HDDs and their mono-green CRTs!
 
 
0 #9 yourma2000 2011-04-17 16:37
Quoting Cartman:
Well all this new stuff is pointless, your gonna come to ur friend and he wont have USB 3.0... do we need PCI-EX 3.0?


Well you wouldn't want to hit the PCIe 2.0 bandwidth capaticy, release PCIe 3.0 and realise that it has a major problem which ends up in recalls and more research and design, leaving the graphics card industry stuck performance wise for an unknown amount of time
 
 
+2 #10 The_Countess 2011-04-17 21:44
Quoting Cartman:
Well all this new stuff is pointless, your gonna come to ur friend and he wont have USB 3.0...

and it will still work.
usb is completely backward compatible. so there is little reason not to do it.
and usb2.0 has been a bottleneck for usb drivers and external hard drivers for quite a while already.
we need usb3.0

pci-e3.0 is basically a nearly free upgrade, and again 100% backward compatible. and it means cards can use a 1x slot instead of a 4x slot which is cheaper.

and ddr3 we need because as computers get more cores they need more memory bandwidth. getting the same bandwidth with ddr2 would be much more expensive as you would need 3 or 4 channels.

all this new stuff is far from pointless.
 

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