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Tuesday, 03 May 2011 11:34

AMD must remain armless

Written by Nick Farell


ARM not going to get into AMD
Analysts have dismissed media speculation that AMD is going to move to Arm based chip designs. In a report penned by GLD Research, the company said that it did not take much analysis to be convinced there is little here that will dramatically help AMD or ARM.

ARM would come out better but AMD would be mostly working outside of its depth. For more than 30 years, AMD had focused on personal computers and servers, using advanced versions of the x86 processor of its own design chasing behind and occasionally getting ahead of Intel, the report notes. But the operating systems, applications, and any other software written for x86 processors cannot be run on any other processor without massive efforts in re-writing and testing, making it totally impractical and ineffective.

ARM processor architecture is too different from the x86, as are all other processors. While it is nearly a de facto standard in embedded electronic systems where AMD has no links. ARM processors are known for being thrifty in terms of power consumption. Their power is measured in milliwatts, not the tens of carefully-throttled watts of x86 horsepower. AMD once had non-x86 processors, even a version of the MIPS architecture which also drew the whisper of power that ARM processors can, but AMD was completely unsuccessful finding sustainable markets for its Alchemy chips, the report noted.

It would not be the first x86 designer to waste cash trying to chase after ARM either. Intel invested a small fortune into the ARM architecture it called XScale and put its marketing muscle behind winning designs in the personal digital assistant (PDA) and smart phone market. After a few short years, Intel abandoned the effort and flogged its its portion to Marvell. The report said that AMD would be starting flat-footed in both the markets and processors of the ARM architecture, so putting an ARM in AMD’s pocket is not likely to set them up to succeed, especially since there are dozens of traditional embedded processor merchants fighting.
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-51 #1 Warrior24_7 2011-05-03 11:47
Basically, "we can't do it" and Nvidia can!! :cry:
 
 
+38 #2 JAB Creations 2011-05-03 12:05
Quote:
occasionally getting ahead of Intel


That's funny because I I can drop a six core CPU clocked at 3.3GHz with an unlocked multiplier in the same motherboard I bought on day one over two years ago with my 790FX motherboard and potentially could drop an eight or even a 12 core CPU in two or three months to a year while Intel decided they needed a whole new socket with a single pin difference. With AMD I'm far ahead by not having to throw away perfectly good hardware whereas with Intel I'd be able to take a girl out less often because that is what ultimately matters more.
 
 
-43 #3 Drac 2011-05-03 13:43
Quoting JAB Creations:
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That's funny because I I can drop a six core CPU clocked at...and Intels 4 core still beat shi*e of it LOL
Basicaly i am admitting,that Intel always had faster and better optimized cpu's


Agree with that LOL :D
So you admitting,that for every new and modern cpu you need new chipset,which can utilize all they power and all innovations,oth erwise no point for new cpu's.
You also very successfully can drop that so called amd 6 core to some 2004 mobo and still be happy,do ya?
You amd fanboys really funny,trying to cover amd shortcomings in every possible way.
amd always was and will be shadow of Intel,like it or not.
Now start flame war,its typical from you on this site LOL :D
 
 
+29 #4 Medallish 2011-05-03 15:38
Quoting Drac:
Agree with that LOL :D
So you admitting,that for every new and modern cpu you need new chipset,which can utilize all they power and all innovations,oth erwise no point for new cpu's.
You also very successfully can drop that so called amd 6 core to some 2004 mobo and still be happy,do ya?
You amd fanboys really funny,trying to cover amd shortcomings in every possible way.
amd always was and will be shadow of Intel,like it or not.
Now start flame war,its typical from you on this site LOL :D

Is it just me or do Intel Fanboys have the most lame humor of all time? The point he was making was a very valid one, why is Intel splitting up the sockets? And why couldn't they release a SB without the GPU compatible with the Nehalem socket?
 
 
+11 #5 vkozyrev 2011-05-03 15:45
It will be interesting to see another "fusion" or ARM, x86 and Video on one chip...
 
 
+13 #6 agent_47 2011-05-03 16:53
Who is this bloody analyst coz i wana piss all over him.
Amd taking ARM would do them both a world of wonders.
For AMD: ARM signed over 30 new liecences since last jan. Imagine the return amd would get.
For ARM: they get to used the advanced gpu of amd and better implement openCL. Meaning we can finally have console like games n maybe even better
For intel n nvidia: it would mean a butt load of headaches.

So y shouldn amd go bag arm. It will not cost anything more that 30pc of what they paid for ati. Even then they should get arm just to piss intel n nvidia and thier faniies
 
 
+14 #7 agent_47 2011-05-03 16:58
Quoting Medallish:
Is it just me or do Intel Fanboys have the most lame humor of all time?et?


Naa...Its the general feeling all over the milky way and mayb even beyond!!!
 
 
+14 #8 The_Countess 2011-05-03 22:40
Quoting Warrior24_7:
Basically, "we can't do it" and Nvidia can!! :cry:


more like "we cant be bothered"
and nvidia can be bothers because they sure as hell can't make a x86 cpu and are struggling to make a cost effective GPU.
(and they are about to loss the whole of the lower end of that market to boot.)
 
 
-21 #9 Warrior24_7 2011-05-03 23:12
Quoting The_Countess:
more like "we cant be bothered"
and nvidia can be bothers because they sure as hell can't make a x86 cpu and are struggling to make a cost effective GPU.
(and they are about to loss the whole of the lower end of that market to boot.)


Riiight, yea uh huh. :lol: AM DOO DOO met with ARM for this very reason. Nvidia did their homework and AM DUNG didn't! Nvidida can AFFORD to do this and AM DUNG can't. AM DUNG wanted these chips and btw, didn't they run their CEO out of town for his failure to expand into the phone market?!! So its back to sour grapes and excuses on why they can't pull the trigger on a booming part of the market. Epic fail...AGAIN!!
 
 
-6 #10 nECrO 2011-05-04 07:11
Quoting The_Countess:
Quoting Warrior24_7:
Basically, "we can't do it" and Nvidia can!! :cry:


more like "we cant be bothered"
and nvidia can be bothers because they sure as hell can't make a x86 cpu and are struggling to make a cost effective GPU.
(and they are about to loss the whole of the lower end of that market to boot.)



Too true, but your arguments fall on deaf (and retarded) ears. As usual your comments a short and well to the point but your arguing with a mental defective.

Oh, and not to mention that Nvidia needs to watch it's pennies. It's stock took a major hit yesterday and they are running out of markets.
 

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