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Wednesday, 17 August 2011 10:19

Kepler production starts this year

Written by Fuad Abazovic


Products in early 2012
We have already talked about it, but it looks like AMD's Southern Islands can and will beat Nvidia’s Kepler to the shops.

According to the latest information we managed gather, Kepler should start production this year, most likely in Q4 2011, but the actual GPU and cards based on it won’t hit the market before Q1 2012. This is at least one-quarter slip from Nvidia’s long term plan, but again the GPU should be there in time to sell together with Ivy Bridge CPUs. Ivy Bridge, the first 22nm CPU, is expected in March or April and Nvidia is expected to have both desktop and mobile chip launched before by then. However, Nvidia will be late for the holiday shopping season.

On the other hand, AMD is reportedly on time to launch its Southern Islands generation late this year and some reports even claim that all is in line for a September launch.

Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang recently said that Nvidia is better prepared for 28nm transition, but traditionally it was never easy to go from one design node to another.

Other sources close to the company also wanted to underline that despite the fact that Nvidia might be late to the game, overall they expect that Kepler 28nm can win against what Southern Islands have to offer. As always with such claims, a grain of salt is a must. It is still too early in the game and it’s anyone’s guess who will win the first 28nm round.

 

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-1 #1 spigzone 2011-08-17 11:06
"... and it’s anyone’s guess who will win the first 28nm round."

In what alternate universe?

A 4 to 6 month lead + holiday season = 7xxx wipes the floor with Kepler.

When Kepler does finally launch AMD's known superior process engineering added to the production time lead makes it all but certain the wafer yields on 7xxx will better Nvidia's for several months putting Nvidia at a price performance disadvantage for most if not all of Keplers lifecycle.
 
 
+5 #2 nele 2011-08-17 11:10
Quoting spigzone:
"... and it’s anyone’s guess who will win the first 28nm round."

In what alternate universe?

A 4 to 6 month lead + holiday season = 7xxx wipes the floor with Kepler.

When Kepler does finally launch AMD's known superior process engineering added to the production time lead makes it all but certain the wafer yields on 7xxx will better Nvidia's for several months putting Nvidia at a price performance disadvantage for most if not all of Keplers lifecycle.



Nope - at this point nobody knows the performance, apart from maybe a small team of engineers in both companies.

It's just too early to say which will be faster.

Besides, at the rate the market is going now, nobody will care by the time they launch. ;-)
 
 
+1 #3 arunmcops 2011-08-17 12:23
The time Kepler will reach the shops , AMD will be ready with first revision of Southern Islands silicon,with pretty much idea of Kepler performance. I really hope Nvidia doesn't screw this time and releases full silicon this time as it will mount pressure on AMD to adjust the prices . This will be ultimately good for consumer.
 
 
-8 #4 bro_fist 2011-08-17 12:29
Quoting nele:
Nope - at this point nobody knows the performance, apart from maybe a small team of engineers in both companies.


AMD fanboys have broken time machine.

"the GPU should be there in time to sell together with Ivy Bridge CPUs"

28nm + 22nm = WiN
28nm + 32nm = FAiL
 
 
-2 #5 dan 2011-08-17 12:45
AMD have a new architecture for SI, which will be more efficient than VLIW4. There is no way that Kepler will be able to compete. As with Fermi, it will be hotter, slower and later than the competition.

Bro_fist - are you saying that Nvidia needs Intel's CPU to be able to win? What about Intel 22nm + AMD 28nm GPU? I think you'll find AMD makes its way into more Ivy laptops than Nvidia.
 
 
-7 #6 bro_fist 2011-08-17 13:05
Quoting dan:
Bro_fist - are you saying that Nvidia needs Intel's CPU to be able to win? What about Intel 22nm + AMD 28nm GPU? I think you'll find AMD makes its way into more Ivy laptops than Nvidia.


Yoh Dawg, I heard you like cars without fuel.

Have you ever seen any review? Nvidia and Intel runs faster on every game because shitty AMD's CPU performance.

PoorAMDfags and Intel CPU? I hope thieves stolen some money from Great Britain riots. :D
 
 
-1 #7 Sodomy 2011-08-17 13:10
expect to see a continuation of the trend (being AMD stealing market share off nvidia), for another generation. the only why this wont happen is if the AMD have done a terrible implementation of MIMD.
 
 
-5 #8 spp 2011-08-17 13:51
Can NVIDIA stop making cards ?? We dont want cards with buggy drivers combined with high power consumption, heat etc :-x
 
 
+7 #9 Nerdfighter 2011-08-17 15:10
Quote:
Other sources close to the company also wanted to underline that despite the fact that Nvidia might be late to the game, overall they expect that Kepler 28nm can win against what Southern Islands have to offer


How can you say one wins over the other when the release is so far away? Any concrete info? Neutral articles please...

Anyway, I'm hoping to grab a 28nm card this year.
 
 
+9 #10 dew111 2011-08-17 19:55
Quoting bro_fist:
Have you ever seen any review? Nvidia and Intel runs faster on every game because shitty AMD's CPU performance.




Uhhh...I think you ignored the sentence you quoted. An AMD GPU can be run with an Intel CPU just fine. And besides, if Ivy Bridge is 20% faster than a processor that is 50% faster than what I need, why should I care? Bulldozer will probably be slower than Ivy Bridge, but I'm willing to go with it because of Intel's poor driver support. Also, I feel like buying an i7-2600K is sort of wasting money on the part of the die which has a terrible IGP. I know this may be nitpicking, but I'm willing to support the underdog in hopes they can produce some competition for Chipzilla.
 

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