While Apple has managed to do well with its Apple Pay product, there are signs that all is not well.

Apple has had to launch a charm offensive on senior banking and finance executives, as the world’s biggest walled garden tries to patch up its fractious relationship.

The central issue is bankers, unlike other Apple partners, do not see why they must give so much money for the pricey Apple Pay transaction service. Apple’s secrecy rules also do not play nice with current transparency regulations.

Apple thought it could resolve the issue by holding an exclusive presentation in the middle of a trade show for the bankers. This backfired because Apple bodged it by holding the secret presentation in the middle of an Aussie trade show and kicking out all the other riff-raff.

It tried to do its usual trick of hyping itself up and expect the bankers to follow like adoring children. Unfortunately for Apple, high-level Bankers did not get where the are today by believing that sort of rubbish. In fact, while Bankers might be Satan’s little helpers, at least theyare not stupid Apple fanboys who think buying the iPhoneX is great because its maker tells them that it is.

Attendees leaving the presentation, some early, were plainly underwhelmed. ITnews spoke to a Swiss banker who was less impressed and described the Apple event as one giant stage managed ad and said it revolved around Apple talking about how good it was, how good its privacy is, and how nice its products are.

“Apparently I can also do some banking on my iPad and you can use an iPad in a bank”, the gentleman drolly said. "Great."

French, Belgian, and German bankers seemed similarly underwhelmed and said that Apple basically thought they could win them over with an hour-long advert.

One audience member said the presentation confirmed what his organisation already knew: there isn’t really a discussion or negotiation, just Apple’s trademark uncompromising position.

“And they are expensive and quite arrogant. I think too expensive. I don’t see a change. We will see.”

Normally when a company makes a PR balls up on that scale it changes its policy and works out a way to engage its customers better. Apple on the other hand arrogantly believes its own bullshit and has no connection points to the finance industry. As a result, it stands to lose as bankers think it might be better to pull out.