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Wednesday, 14 July 2010 10:03

New high end card has two GF104 chips

Written by Fuad Abazovic
geforce

Comes later this year
We got some confirmation that GTX 480 will get a successor, and this new card will be made out of two GF104 chips.

The card will have two GTX 460 chips so to speak and with the right clocks it could be faster. It is too early to know the exact specification but as a hint what to expect, the full GF104 chip has eight clusters with 48 shaders each, and the card with total 384x2 is possible. This is of course if Nvidia manages to enable all shaders and clock the chip to some decent clocks, say 700+ MHz.

The dual card can end up with up to 768 shaders, but we are quite sure that the final number will be lower than that. As for the memory, GDDR5 is of course the first choice and the clocks speeds around 4000MHz should be possible.

The only thing we can confirm is that the new high end “GX2 Fermi successor” dual card has two GF104 chips and that the performance wise it should be the fastest thing on market, at least it should end up faster than Radeon HD 5970 X2 card, but then again, ATI is not sitting around with its legs crossed.

Last modified on Wednesday, 14 July 2010 12:07
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+19 #1 dan 2010-07-14 10:42
How on earth will it be faster than a 5970? A single GF104 is not faster than a 5850 (two of which make up the 5970). And that is keeping the same clocks. Unless they want to exceed the PCIe limit of 300W, they will have to downclock the two GF104's, making it even slower.

More FUD from Fudo, quelle surprise.
 
 
+11 #2 nagib 2010-07-14 11:08
There is no way dual GF104 can be faster than 5970. Fudo is good for digging up the rumors, but in analysis (and English grammar) is ridiculous. He also favors Nvidia over ATI (which is obvious from his posts).
 
 
+7 #3 C4PSL0CK 2010-07-14 14:41
I suggest both dan and nagib go check Anandtech's review. GTX460 1GB/786MB SLI perform about the same as the HD5970 and even rival HD5870 CF when overclocked. nVidia's drivers simply allow better scaling.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/gtx460_071110174503/23703.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/gtx460_071110174503/23744.png


I'm pretty sure 2 full 384SP GPUs can easily beat a HD5970.
 
 
-4 #4 blandead 2010-07-14 16:06
I'm pretty sure 2 full 384SP GPUs can easily beat a HD5970.

yes but its faster than standard clocked 5970, and everyone knows 5970 can oc pretty nicely so I don't think it will be faster and I doubt they will have full 384SP enabled with 2 cards. It's too hard to tell what their clocks and SP will be so even if the SLI is a bit faster than a standard 5970 I doubt the dual version card will be, probly will be close tho
 
 
-4 #5 CRoland 2010-07-14 17:04
Quoting C4PSL0CK:
I suggest both dan and nagib go check Anandtech's review. GTX460 1GB/786MB SLI perform about the same as the HD5970 and even rival HD5870 CF when overclocked. nVidia's drivers simply allow better scaling.

460 1GB uses 20W more than 5850 according to the same review. So they couldn't use as high clocks in a dual card. Also, other reviews (with never drivers) show 5xxx cards doing better.
 
 
+1 #6 Nubstick 2010-07-14 19:30
@C4PSL0CK
In the vast majority of benchmarks the 5970 bests a pair of 460 1GB in SLI.

Take into account the 768MB version has a TDP of 160W. Overclocking/using all SPs/using 1GB will all drastically increase the TDP, two of them will be well over the 300W pcie limit.

If anything the dual card will have lower clocks, and will definitely under perform the 5970.
 
 
+8 #7 tekken 2010-07-14 20:28
So it took NVIDIA basically 1 year to offer a dual GPU board to match ATI's 5970. Wow, that is "impressive"....

In order to meet the same TPD as the 5970, NVIDIA must be literally hand picking low leakage GF104s. Which given their 40nm yield issues looks like it is going to be a money losing product for NVIDIA just to get the performance crown PR midshare.

ATI has been able to dominate this generation without having to tweak their silicon for one year, while NVIDIA has had 2 different silicon series just to match ATI's offerings.
 
 
-1 #8 Bl0bb3r 2010-07-15 11:23
Quoting tekken:
ATI has been able to dominate this generation without having to tweak their silicon for one year [...]



Well, ATI's been working on Southern Islands which will hopefully come later this year and whoop some green ass some more.
 
 
-2 #9 macblastin 2010-07-15 20:19
A dual GPU card, nothing to get excited about, i have 2 GTX 295's and i hate them, your better sticking with a single GPU card and SLI or Tri-SLI at most.

I guess how bad the card will be will dpend on how much the have to gimp (cut-down) the GPU and the clocks.
 
 
+2 #10 BroHamBone 2010-07-16 02:49
Hah, that is awsome.. I cant seem to find out where it is, but somewhere me and someone else commented on that same idea. Dual GPUs, 475's, 485's, and 495's.....(Looking for it) Ah here it is!
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tomshardwareus.inc&cat=33&post=292881&page=1&p=1&sondage=0&owntopic=1&trash=0&trash_post=0&print=0&numreponse=0"e_only=0&new=0&nojs=0

He got the info from here! My Comment! Woot! I win! Rumor Spread! Lol, they will probably come out with something along those lines though.
 

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