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Tuesday, 12 July 2011 10:38

Kal El Tegra 3 to get to phones

Written by Fuad Abazovic
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Some designs already in 2011
We got confirmation that Kal-El quad core, Nvidia’s next generation SoC with five times faster graphics than Tegra 2 won’t be exclusive for tablets only. It will show up in phones as well.

Well informed sources are confirming that such projects are already underway and that Tegra 3, should we still use the Kal-El codename, will get to a few phone designs.

Tegra 2 did  manage to get a few design wins, but it was not as embraced as Nvidia had hoped for, so maybe the third iteration will help the cause.

Having a quad core in a phone sounds like real overkill, but Kal-El thermals should not be much higher than Tegra 2, this is at least what we heard before from similar Far East sources.

The launch time frame for such a device would be by the end of the year, and you can expect that it shows up after tablets based on the Kal-El quad core. The main concern is that Kal El is still 40nm and that once Nvidia get the 28nm version of its dual and quad cores in 2012. Thermals of such chips will be much more suitable for phones and tablets.
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-8 #1 dan 2011-07-12 12:37
So in essence this story goes "Nvidia are great, Kal-El is great" and then goes on to say "actually they're too hot, they're not that great".

LOL.
 
 
-8 #2 STRESS 2011-07-12 12:52
Two things about this:

First: If the thermals are so great as you claim Mr. Fudo why was Tegra2 not that well embraced by device manufactures (hint: maybe because the specs on paper do not hold up to the specs in reality?)

Second: Tegra3 is nVidia's last chance otherwise they're out! Too much money has been gone the toilet for the Tegra stuff already just to feel JJH's pride
 
 
-17 #3 bro_fist 2011-07-12 13:01
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+10 #4 shompa 2011-07-12 13:25
#2 Time for a reality check: Nvidia's market cap is twice of AMD. Nvidia make huge profits and have no debt. AMD has almost 1.5 billion in dept.

Tegra3 has NOVA SIMD extensions. Something that AppleA5 have. This is really important if you want graphic acceleration.
 
 
+13 #5 aw32ef45dq 2011-07-12 15:42
Kal El is available in either a two core or four core version.

The two core version is for smart phones while the four core version is for tablets or net/notebooks.

This information was publicly available in the press release for Kal El.

Not sure why Faud forgot about the two core version of Kal El.
 
 
-19 #6 dan 2011-07-12 17:28
Why would you need a 2 core version for phones? After all, if you listen to Nvidia, having more cores actually SAVES power. LOL.
 
 
+7 #7 aw32ef45dq 2011-07-12 19:08
Quoting dan:
Why would you need a 2 core version for phones?


Reason(s): the 2-core version costs less than the 4-core version also a 4-core version is overkill for a phone.
 
 
+4 #8 aw32ef45dq 2011-07-12 19:10
Quoting dan:
After all, if you listen to Nvidia, having more cores actually SAVES power. LOL.


As for your misquoted FUD about power here is what was actually stated:

A 4-core Kal El will use the same (or lower) power as a 2-core Tegra 2 when executing the same work load.

Since you seen to have a limited comprehension problem with that statement here is what it means:

#1 There is no leakage penalty for having 2 more cores. Kal El had some tweaks done to it.

#2 that the 4-core Kal El will execute the work in 1/2 the time that a Tegra 2 takes yet the power used for the work is exactly the same.
 
 
+1 #9 godrilla 2011-07-13 01:00
It is an overkill untill aps support it! Expect more phones like the atrix with docks. Well see how android 4.0 plays out so far a dual core nexus is rumored. The mobile progression in raising standards are fast but not that fast! Dual cores just became satandard! Expect some quadcores when qualcomm come out with their quad core chips as well based on 28nm next year.
 
 
+2 #10 godrilla 2011-07-13 01:09
Quoting aw32ef45dq:
Kal El is available in either a two core or four core version.

The two core version is for smart phones while the four core version is for tablets or net/notebooks.

This information was publicly available in the press release for Kal El.

Not sure why Faud forgot about the two core version of Kal El.

How many gpu core will the dual core tegra 3 have? And is their any difference vs tegra 2? Clocks speeds, efficency?
 

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